What do YOU want to see in a space map?

RogueKnight · Post by **RogueKnight** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:09 pm

Well, as the topic starts, what do you want to see in a space map? I always felt that stock maps were.... lacking..... but I could never place my finger on it. Please don't post absurd ideas, as those WILL NOT be implemented.

Super_Clone · Post by **Super_Clone** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:44 pm

Asteroids, Meteors, that stuff.

myers73 · Post by **myers73** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:51 pm

more auto turrets on the mother ship, better indoor planning

Fluffy_the_ic · Post by **Fluffy_the_ic** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:57 pm

Uhm... Multiple cap ships, stronger but less accurate turrets with a slower rate of fire, dunno what else.

Frisbeetarian · Post by **Frisbeetarian** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:58 pm

It's a space map, I want to see space fighting. That means smarter AI and thus better pathing. Read the FlyerSplineFollowing.txt and apply that liberally- much more than Pandemic did for their space maps. This takes time and effort; play around with the pathing controls to see what works.

MetalcoreRancor · Post by **MetalcoreRancor** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:02 pm

Placing a capital ship vertically, so it is moving up/down.

Fluffy_the_ic · Post by **Fluffy_the_ic** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:13 pm

MetalcoreRancor wrote:Placing a capital ship vertically, so it is moving up/down.

I hope you mean just having one vertically that nobody can spawn in, because otherwise you would be walking on walls.

RogueKnight · Post by **RogueKnight** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:51 pm

what about space stations?

Fluffy_the_ic · Post by **Fluffy_the_ic** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:53 pm

DarthRogueKnight wrote:what about space stations?

NO!

No space stations.

RogueKnight · Post by **RogueKnight** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:57 pm

Fluffy_the_ic wrote:
DarthRogueKnight wrote:what about space stations?
NO! No space stations.

YES! SPACE STATIONS!

Post by **Maveritchell** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:04 pm

DarthRogueKnight wrote:
Fluffy_the_ic wrote:
DarthRogueKnight wrote:what about space stations?
NO! No space stations.
YES! SPACE STATIONS!

You asked for feedback - you got it. If you're making something, feel free to do whatever you want, as that is your prerogative. That doesn't mean someone can't disagree with you, though.

(Of course I tend to like the idea of space stations, but everyone's got his own opinion.)

Eggman · Post by **Eggman** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:39 pm

This might seem like a negligible detail, but music is important for me. I never liked the shipped GCW space battles in part because the music was so boring, which is incredible considering that some of the best music in the original trilogy came from space battles. There might be a few minutes of good music, then in the middle of the battle some music kicks in that was used in the movies for "wander around the base and try to be sneaky" scenes.

Super_Clone · Post by **Super_Clone** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:58 pm

That's no moon..... It's a space station........

Nihillo · Post by **Nihillo** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:06 pm

Eggman wrote:This might seem like a negligible detail, but music is important for me. I never liked the shipped GCW space battles in part because the music was so boring, which is incredible considering that some of the best music in the original trilogy came from space battles. There might be a few minutes of good music, then in the middle of the battle some music kicks in that was used in the movies for "wander around the base and try to be sneaky" scenes.

Very true.

I would like to see more transports and see them board enemy capital ships, not sure if it is possible though.

Eggman · Post by **Eggman** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:54 pm

Nihillo wrote:I would like to see more transports and see them board enemy capital ships, not sure if it is possible though.

It is possible to give a node on a flyer spline a property that tells AI to land, but I really don't think it would work too well in a space map. It would be extremely difficult to set up a path that led the AI into a hangar without crashing. The only hangar model I can really imagine trying that with would be the CIS one, and even that would be a stretch if you ask me.

YaNkFaN · Post by **YaNkFaN** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:02 pm

i'd like either firing in hangars (i know it's hardcoded so it's only a dream really) or sort of more intense battle like battle over coruscant where the ships are more of obstacles and make it more of a "map" then space battles are now

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Twilight_Warrior · Post by **Twilight_Warrior** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:06 pm

Look at the opening scene of Episode III. Now look at a Space Map for SWBFII. Huge difference. Now, how could one make it more like that.

Well, you could add more capital ships. and a few more frigates. But instead of having them side by side, have them scattered around. And layered. I always found it a bit annoying how the capital ships were at the same level and you could make a quick bee-line from one to another. Mav's KotOR Space Map is a great example of the scattered layering.

Also, more AI and vehicles. This adds a sort of hectic franticness to the battle. Like you have to try to survive intsead of just bloing everything up.

One more thing, make the capital ships destructable. Kinda like conquest where you can take all the CPs to win.

YaNkFaN · Post by **YaNkFaN** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:11 pm

i'd say not capital ship destruction but frigate destruction but frigates are stronger and have more health/guns

Xavious · Post by **Xavious** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:17 pm

Eggman wrote:
Nihillo wrote:I would like to see more transports and see them board enemy capital ships, not sure if it is possible though.
It is possible to give a node on a flyer spline a property that tells AI to land, but I really don't think it would work too well in a space map. It would be extremely difficult to set up a path that led the AI into a hangar without crashing. The only hangar model I can really imagine trying that with would be the CIS one, and even that would be a stretch if you ask me.

You could always animate a transport as an object to fly to the hangar and "land." But if you set it to be able to spawn units, they'd be able to spawn mid-flight and fall to their dooms. (Though I've seen the AI do that on some ground maps that have transports anyways, so meh)

YaNkFaN · Post by **YaNkFaN** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:21 pm

another idea would be capturable ships that then change turret teams when they change teams (this actually can be done in bf2)

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